Talk:Big Sister

Hello all! this is the talk page for the Big Sister article! feel free to discuss this article with our fellow community.--Masqueradebunny14 03:21, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Response
ok im guessing that youre reffering to Bioshock 2 and not the Big Sisters? yea.... But the Big sisters really do scare me! im wondering why they have cages and my guess is that we'll have to hack the cage to get the little sister
 * xD i find it kinda funneh, cos i have a specific sex appeal to the big sister.... now THAT's scary -.- Bloodharbringer 13:44, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * ...And that's relevant...how? - §tigma-231 ♠ p  o  w  erful phrase { τalk }{¢ont } 15:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Right... you have to read stuff, man. not just response.
 * I did read. It still didn't come off as relevant. At all. - §tigma-231 ♠ p  o  w  erful phrase { τalk }{¢ont } 14:35, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * you humans.... tss. Bloodharbringer 10:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Then what are you? - §tigma-231 ♠ p  o  w  erful phrase { τalk }{¢ont } 18:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm the funk soul brother ^^ Bloodharbringer 10:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

How do kill it --Ryan Pierce 13:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)Bioshock54

Big Sisters/Little sis cages
okay my guess is that the little sis will climb out of the cage when the big sis dies and start crying and say something stupid like "mrs B.!" or something--Masqueradebunny14 03:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course you think that! Why do you hate them so much? I think they're cute!!-Cohensnumber1fan

Big Sister/Little sis cages
i dont hate them! im just guessing and its the truth cuz they do it to the dead big daddies in bioshock--Masqueradebunny14 04:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC) Yea thats true...

Big Sister vs Big Sisters
A Game Informer article here heavily implies that there is only 1 Big Sister. Talking about their cover story headline; 'Take a moment and read it slowly out loud. We’ll wait. “Big Sister” awaits your return, not “Big Sisters.” That’s a small, but critical, distinction.' Perhaps changing the article to reflect this singular would make sense, at least until contradictory statements are made? --Jumpmonkey 16:31, 14 March 2009 (UTC) As i havnt read the official article yet, My opinion doesn't count for much but this person may have a point... In every teaser ive read they havnt really mentioned the Big sister as plural. -Cohensnumber1fan

Respone to Big Sister as plural
well you may have a point there and i appreciate the tip about just one big sister but u have to give me credit,it was my first article and at least i knew enough about the big sister, like what they looked like. but i stll appreciate it but did u ever think that the part on the cover where it says "Big Sister waits your return" maybe its just saying that particular big sister and mayb theres more of them cuz i personally think it would be kinda weird with only one big siser... --Masqueradebunny14 02:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Dont get me wrong! I think it's a great article :) I just saw that story on that article and as they were the magazine with the scoop on Bioshock 2, it may be right.

Then again when they say "Big Sister" maybe they mean like the Big Sister group as a whole or the strongest original Big Sister with weaker Big Sisters behind it which boils down to just saying Big Sister instead of Big Sister-s. --User:Samsam424

There is just one Big Sister
ok sorry for confusing everybody with my recent comment but i was wrong... there is only one Big Sister and now that ive read the game informer april 2009, im glad theres only one Big Sister--Masqueradebunny14 01:05, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes because if there was more than one, the game would probably be unbeatable because if you see what one big sister would do to the all high and mighty big daddy main character, there would be no hope for anything in rapture... --The Silence 01:20, 24 March 2009 (UTC)The Silence

yeah the game might be unbeatable but maybe in Bioshock 2 theres a way to get te big sister off our backs when she attacks? who knows? i suppose we'll have to wait till the game come out which is still 6 months away! --Masqueradebunny14 01:09, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes cause remember, they need to "drop a bomb" that will change our look on the game like with jack and his would you kindly issue in the first Bioshock, so maybe through a shocking event, the player could find a way to deal with big sister. --The Silence 01:14, 24 March 2009 (UTC)The silence

Jack died of old age due to his accellarated growth.Does anyone remember the good ending?The Little SisterS were holding Jack's hand as he was dying.

--Ryan Pierce 13:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)Bioshock54

-Nobody's disputing that...

Wait, if theres only one Big Sister what happens when you kill\deafet her? Game Over? --User:Samsam424

''-I assume her health would get to the minimum and then she'd probably scream and flee, leaving you with the reward of some ADAM. Or possibly you could defeat her, she'll go down, you'll think she's dead, but then the body will disappear, indicating she's back.''

Ive checked things out on various places (kotaku, 2K forum, etc) and there is more than one big sister, there is a more powerful, origonal big sister, and several weaker ones.

Big sister in bioshock 1
Was just playing through Bioshock and I noticed that when tenebaum saves you, in her area behind the glass when your in the little sister nursery, there seems to be an unconcious/sleeping little sister on a table near her.. you can only see her from the waist down, but she seems to be taller and possibly older then the others.. (or at least if just taller that could explain why the big sister is suposed to be 6'10) Tenebaum aparently said the big sister was her fault, I wonder if that is supposed to be her. edit: you can see her on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmX2oo4NDPg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbioshock%2Ewikia%2Ecom%2Fwiki%2FTenenbaum&feature=player_embedded although the quality isn't as good as in game --Volkov545 20:40, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

R u serious?!? Im gonna have to check tht out next time i get their in my game--The Silence 20:29, 1 April 2009 (UTC)The Silence

Well, supposedly in Bioshock 2 you play as the first Big Daddy ever created. Maybe the Big Sister that you saw was the first Little Sister, and you're fighting against her for control of Rapture. If the Little Sister's are around nine years old in Bioshock, they'd be around 20 when Bioshock 2 takes place. If the first Little Sister was created a few years prior, she'd could be even older, which would explain the height. Another possibility is that Tenenbaum created the Big Sister to protect herself while she went around saving Little Sisters. In Bioshock, Atlas says (paraphrased), "If you can walk around Rapture without a single scratch, you've got more protecting you than leprechauns". It would make sense that the Big Sister was more powerful than Big Daddy's as she would have to kill them to rescue any Little Sisters. Plus, Jack himself was the height of a 19 year old by the time he was two years old, perhaps the same treatment was given to the Big Sister in Bioshock. Ppppaaaauuuullll 21:12, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

OMG! i never suspected this! i can check to see if this is right cuz i'm right at the end of Hepheastus and that means tenenbaums safehouse is nxt! ill look 2 c! --Masqueradebunny14 01:27, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Great points, Ppppaaaauuuullll, I never thought about that.... Gamma 06:47, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

ahhhh!!!! I WANT THE GAME TO COME OUT!!! THE SUSPENCE IS DRIVING ME INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Cohensnumber1fan 02:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Big Sister article
Some confirmed info and some speculation. JAF1970 06:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Contradictive
The first half of this article states: "It is probably obvious that the Big Sister will be the most powerful enemy in BioShock 2, and as such is the de facto leader of Rapture, having taken the late Andrew Ryan and Frank Fontaine's place."

However the last line of the article states: "However, the Big Sister will not be the main enemy for the game but just a powerful boss."

I am currently unaware of what the commonly held consensus is on this role of the Big Sister, but I was just pointing it out. If someone has a quote that works in favor of one of these points feel free to edit one of these parts.

--Atlas the Fisherman 03:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

''-Not really contradictive at all... Just because she's the "most powerful enemy" in the game does not necessarily mean she is the "main enemy" in the storyline.''

What the hell
If Tennumbum did escape with some little sisters she would have turned them into normal girls. So how would the grow up to become the big siter. Did they get changed back? --Kiwi Monty 09:03, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but even using the plasmid to remove the sea slug wasn't completely effective; there were effects from having the sea slug and from the conditioning that couldn't be removed, which can be seen in the Proving Grounds level as the Little Sister still tries to gather the ADAM and is able to take more damage than a normal 9 year old girl, possible invulnerabilty traces from the ADAM, and maybe removal of the slug actually leads to genetic recombination during the extraction which allowed her to produce ADAM on her own? Otherwhise how else could she have become so powerful? And if the theory that she is the first Little Sister created... then the sea slug might not have even been removed. There's so many possibilities the team has to work with to be able to make this scenario canon with what has happened so far. Althought it would have to make the Big Sister an extreme anomaly if she has had her slug removed compared to the other ex-Little Sisters as seen by the 'Happy' ending "he door opens, and you see that it is filled with rescued Little Sisters. Jack helps them out, and the cinematic proceeds to show them living happy, fulfilling events in their futures, such as graduation, marriage, and parenthood." 卐 07:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

What the hell are you guys talking about when jack rescued the little ones they were normal


 * Yeah, they don't really explain where the Big Sisters come from in the game. The idea that the player wasn't able to fully fix them in the original game is kinda stupid on its own (so's the guy who made the 1st reply above, but I'm sure no one's counting), and added onto that is the fact that Jordan and the crew at 2K Marin also personally stated that they didn't want to invalidate anything of the original game's two endings. My guess is that the girls are from the areas of Rapture that Jack never visited, so they ended up growing up in Rapture on their own, being raised by their Big Daddies; although, this ending is kind of dubious too, given the whole "not going to invalidate the previous game's two endings" thing. I'm not sure how tightly we can hold them to not wanting to recon the original game though, given all the weird changes they made to Ryan and how Jack is pretty much only mentioned once (which treats the original game almost like it never happened). In any case, my guess is that 2K Marin will fix this info gap on the Big Sisters with Bioshock 3. - Me 12:55 EST Feb. 12th, 2010

New BioShock 2 Information
Now that it has been revealed that there are multiple Big Sisters, This article is now in need of a complete overhaul. We no longer know if there is a special Big Sister, or if the one who has a major part in There's Something in the Sea is special or unique. From the new video clip, we know that there are multiple, and that they are just powerful enemies like Big Daddies. For starters, it seems that the article should lose the character format, and should just be laid out as the other enemy pages.

Any further ideas should be posted below, or if there are none, work should commence immediately by any volunteers. If no one volunteers, I will do it myself, although it will be a while as I am still working on various categorizing and formatting in preparation for BioShock 2.

BlueIsSupreme 02:35, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

So just to clear things up....
The Big Sister is a Rescued Little Sister, that hasn't broken free of the mental conditioning, which turns her into the Big Sister. Right? --Hypnocake 03:41, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

my personal take on it is that big sisters might be non-rescued and non-harvested little sisters that have grown up. they might have stopped producing the pheromone that "bonds" them to big daddies and as such they wear big daddy armor to compensate for lack of protection? just my two cents. makes sense in the way that they are called big sister(s) as they probably older than the little sisters.(edit; forgot to sign :D 10:19, November 24, 2009 (UTC))

Link
Could we add a link to some of the videos?Delta daddie 22:27, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Big Sister/Little sister realationship
Soooo, do the Big Sister(s) carry little sisters around with them like the big daddys do or are they completly sole and alone when it comes to harvesting more adam? and do you have to sometimes battle a Big Sister to get to a little sister? I saw in a video on 1up.com that showed a big sister swimming with a little sister on its back in the cage, whats the deal? --User:Samsam424

No way, Rapture is 6 miles under the ocean, Little sister could never survive in those conditions. Though ironically can survive blows from multiple splicers and bomb explosions.

well then if a Little Sister can't survive under those conditions how does the Big Sister smuggle the new little sisters down from the surface seeing as the Bathesperes can only be used by Ryan [were he alive]?User:Samsam424

Well since Sofia Lamb now rules Rapture, she controls everything including bathyspheres plus the big sister took little girls from surface into the submarine at the ending of Bioshock.

Little/Big Sister Invunerability?!
I'd like to address the last trivia fact on this article - I'm sure I remember Tenenbaum saying that the Sisters had rapid cellular regeneration, but they CAN be killed, as harvesting them proves. I suggest some debate over the matter, the majority decision decides whether the fact stays or not. Bluevane 19:40, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Quotes
Can someone point me to the source of this quote: "This monster you chase, she is like the golden story, not understanding the thing that she does. She is taking girls and turning them into...creatures like her. All of this...it is my fault." I don't recall it from the game, and I've played the first couple of levels 4 or 5 times. Sledgehammerx 22:04, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

That quote is from the video "Hunting the big sister" (CallumFreeman 22:36, February 23, 2010 (UTC))

I believe it was taken from the test level shown for trailers.

BlueIsSupreme 00:20, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, she will only say this to you at the beginning of the game, if you have the Adaptive Training turned on from the options menu. There are actually a few radio messages that will only play with this feature on. Most state the obvious for a veteran Bioshock player, but those who are playing part two first are gaining valuable story information.Kumasaki 08:33, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Teleportation?
I really have to argue with the article on this one. It says,

They are only seen using this ability in a handful of scripted situations throughout the game; most notably when two appear in a last-ditch effort to keep Delta away from Eleanor.

But I have clearly witnessed a Big Sister teleporting in battle. I was in Siren Alley fighting the Sister that appears after saving/harvesting the Little Sisters. Her health was getting low and a Rumbler joined the fight. After seeing the Rumbler, I take off for dear life (as I was low on health as well). After getting away and grabbing some FAKs and EVE Hypos, I see the Big Sister teleport twenty feet or so away from me. The battle continues... The point is, it did teleport and I think this article should reflect this. Are there any arguments to the contrary? EDlTʘR  •taIk• |undefined 06:22, March 1, 2010 (UTC)