Talk:Treason

So no chance the Thinkers talking/mimmicking abilities had been shown/reported  to Ryan as yet ? (to maybe give a clue it was a setup)? So Ryan hadn't heard of the rivalry Wahl had with Porter (a likely motive particularly that hint it was 'colleagues' who supplied it) with such form of  'evidence',   OR worse THAT evidence was enough to have Porter exiled (this is BEFORE his drastic actions taken for the 'civil war', and when around the same time Ryan required ACTUAL hard substansive (legal) evidence to prosecute the real threat that was Fontaine ) ? Evidence not even bothering to require being gathered/substantiated/corroberated by Ryan's own authorities/trusted men ? Basing prosecution merely on one 'So and so said this'  (and the Secret Police making someone 'disappear') was the way the communists Ryan hated worked.

(No day in court where Porter explains "Oh yeah, the Thinker can mimmick speech and that @%$#  Wahl did this because I disagreed with a crazy idea he has - lemme show you and I'll have it do Sinclair singing Opera for you ...")

Too Inconsistent with sequence of events (way Ryan handled things at different times) as detailed in the first game.

If Ryan had acted like that so early, then all Rapture's problems never WOULD have happened - all troublemakers just eliminated from the start. (ie- Lambs first seditious utterances and she's in cement overshoes heading to the bottom of the Abyss,  or when Fontaine's smuggling is simply alleged/hinted, then Sullivan simply off's him and Fontaine is fishfood). Earlier Ryan (pre Atlas Terrorism) is shown bending over backwards to do things legally, and thats blatantly overrun/eliminated in the Minervas Den slapdash 'plot'.

75.36.136.52 09:59, April 17, 2016 (UTC)