Yep, we're done here. High Five. Freezing Mike 11:37, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

I added some businesses that i had seen on the signs outside of the city(joe&eric,tom&dave),and some that i had seen on food cans that made up the grenade launcher(capotelli's,Cafe macunamia).Leea 18:59, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hey guys, I actually think you may have left out quite the business, as I have not found an article on it! As a suggestion, how about Accu-Vox? The business that supposedly manufactures and possibly distributes the audio diaries? It's prominent enough, wouldn't you say?

Still, just a suggestion. :) --Epstein CoR 01:14, December 1, 2009 (UTC)Epstein CoR

I'm not sure of the exact reasoning, but I think Accu-Vox is not listed here because it is actually a product of Fontaine Futuristics. So, what needs to be expanded is the Fontaine Futuristics page. ~Gardimuer ʈalk } 03:37, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Question... Does the label on the nitro splicer's molotov cocktail say "uuck lager beer" or "yuck lager beer"? It's hard to tell. Yuck would make more sense, but I try not to assume. EDlTʘR •taIk• 01:43, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Bunny Rabbit SodaEdit

Since we don't actually know the name of the "soda", shouldn't we place it in the coffee page? EDlTʘR •taIk• 22:04, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

"Out of" Headers Edit

I saw this and wondered why there were separate headers for "in" and "out of" of the same places. I was going to consolidate these when I noticed more headers were formatted like this. I was wondering if there's a deeper meaning to this, or if we really can put the headers into one for these. Gotta keep da format! ~ɠą§ɔîéɳčę { talk } 01:43, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Why "Public Telephone's" are not a business Edit

Many of the things listed on this page are brand names or businesses which are clearly labeled in advertisements or on actual products in game. Public telephones exist in game, but they are not labeled with a brand name or any type of sign showing who owns/operates them. As far as we know they are just public installations like bathrooms. You wouldn't label a "Public restroom" as a business, would you? Payphones are like Cash Registers; they are objects that exist in the game world, but they are not a brand name product. My only point is that we should not list "Public telephones" on this page unless it is a clearly marked brand name or a clearly advertised business. ~Gardimuer 15px-Combat_Tonic.png ʈalk } 12:58, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Wellllll ... the telephones themselves would be made by a company and, in Ryan's capitalist Rapture, the phone system that makes them usable would be privately owned and operated .. by a company. They're just unknown-name companies. The restooms would be a part of the business they are located in, or a shared expense by the various surrounding companies to provide a service for their customers, to keep the customers happy and coming back to spend their money. Capitalism is fun!
Roygbiv666 Sig 001 14:24, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
Think of it like this: "Public telephone" is the name of an item, like "facial tissues" is the name of an item found in stores irl. However, "facial tissues" would not be called a business/brand name; if you were going to list it as a product you would list the specific brand of tissues, like "Kleenex." On this page we don't list "Potato Chips" as a food product, instead we list the specific brand of chips: "Salty's Potato Chips." "Public telephone" is not a brand name. ~Gardimuer 15px-Combat_Tonic.png ʈalk } 14:39, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. My point would be that you could list "Unamed Telephone Company" as a business utilizing the public telephone item. Could.
Roygbiv666 Sig 001 19:39, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Significant Businesses List. Edit

Regarding the Significant Businesses > In Rapture > List:-

There is a more detailed identical List on the main RAPTURE page under Businesses. Would it be desirable to copy/paste that detailed List to this page. Is it possible to copy/paste between pages, I tried to do this, but failed (browser settings problem?).Aquawiki (talk) 20:05, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Not necessartily. The list on the Rapture page is merely an abridged list of businesses founded in Rapture. While the Significant Businesses list on Rapture Businesses is a list of businesses that most directly impact the player and the narratives of BioShock 1 & 2; therefore, they're not directly related. For that reason, I suggest that Jet Postal be removed from the Significant Businesses list. The Jet Postal is important to the city, but none of the protagonists really use it and so are not impacted by it.

Unownshipper (talk) 21:28, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, I understand now. Aquawiki (talk) 18:25, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

Vending Businesses Missing? Edit

Should a section about Vending Businesses be added to this page.

The following examples don't seem to be mentioned on this page.

Health Station

Gene Bank


News Vendor

Tool Dispenser

Eve Dispenser

Slot Machine

See the Vending Machines main page for a list and details.

I am not sure where these really fit in, as far as businesses in Rapture are concerned. Aquawiki (talk) 18:47, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't. With most of these vending machines, the business owner or manufacturer isn't known, so it's hard to qualify them under a "business." Also since almost all of these machines are located in every level, it wouldn't be useful to continuously list them under any of the "Businesses operating in the..." sections. The list under the Vending Machines page is fine enough.

Unownshipper (talk) 04:05, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

2 new businesses to be added? Edit

Should the following be addaed to the mentioned businesses list?

1. Reliable Pharmacy (from a poster in Ryan Amusements)

2. Nini Lyon's Doll Babies - In your Rapture Directory under 'Toys' (from a poster in Ryan Amusements)

Aquawiki (talk) 07:29, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

The doll maker sounds fine, but the Reliable Pharmacy was the original name of Doc Hollcroft's Pharmacy in Pauper's Drop. Maybe it should be a side note under the Pauper's Drop section.
Unownshipper (talk) 00:23, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Extra new businesses, brands, to be added Edit

These businesses and brand names are found on advertising posters and as items in-game, can they be added to the relevant lists:-

1. Fredericks (or Fredericks copper-line?) maker of the 'Happy Handmaid'

2. Happy Handmaid (a brand name)

3. Finley's Pub (this is not the restaurant already listed, but a sepparate business establishment also seen outside)

4. ReJuvena TM (a trade mark brand name) a Skin tightening tonic from Sinclaire Solutions

5. Fontaine Blood Donor Clinics (there could be a number of these small clinics throughout Rapture?)

6. Flower brand cigars (poster in Fort Frolic)

7. Uncle Ewan's 'shine' (bottle of alcohol, probably illegal moonshine, perhaps not a business or brand name?)

8. Haas Classy Clothes (poster in the Sinclair Delux Hotel - near the Power to the People Station)

9. Fine Shoes (shoe boxes containing usable game items)

10. Rapture Vineyards (producer of the Cabernet Sauvingnon 1947 bottle of wine)

11. Cabernet Sauvingnon wine (I think that there is only one bottle of this wine in BioShock 2. It is the bottle of wine on the desk, in the office of Daniel Wales, in the Pink Pearl. It could have been intended to be the bottle of Sacramental Wine with the secret door code, but the vintage date on the bottle is 1947 not 1919?)

Cabernet bottle

Cabernet wine bottle found in the office of Daniel Wales

Aquawiki (talk) 17:10, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

More :Edit

The Boiled Barnacles  and the reused food carts (looks like an ex-popcorn machine) probably dont count as they dont have shop names.Testxyz (talk) 05:40, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Oh and 1947 vintage ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Kinda early for vineyards to already be set up (when Rapture was barely getting started in 1946) and vines take a while to grow produce grapes and ferment etc....   Quality ??? - no wonder they were asking for stuff to be smuggled from the surface.  But then, people used to make fake Champagne using raisins and industrial alcohol. Testxyz (talk) 05:44, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Isnt there a Reliable Pharmacy in Paupers Drop?  A bookstore called  'Books' ,  Rock Flanigan P.I.  The Jet Postal in the Sinclair Deluxe...  The Atlantic Express (station and old maintenance facility),   "Luxury Rooms"

Parts of it actually looked planned and well built (even though says 'workers' built it).  Looks like it was redeveloped by someone with money, perhaps Sinclair taking advantage of the slump in the construction business and he WOULD want various conveniences for the residents of his new (similarly built) 'hotel'. Not quite a 'shantytown' (and the seen condition IS after 8 years of 'new management' under Sofia Lamb).

Testxyz (talk) 05:54, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Husdon PowerEdit

Husdon Power Junction Boxes  in MP maps also seen in The Thinker level map of Minervas Den Testxyz (talk) 11:46, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Sinclair's Self-Service Syringes ...

From the mouths of psychopathic murderers :Edit

  • The Herald   (a newspaper I assume)
  • Shubert Theater

Not sure where these go as they are from BAS

Also did I see a newspaper (3rd dispenser on Market)  called  "Do Tell"  ???

Testxyz (talk) 12:29, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Internet is a powerful research tool. This is the Shubert Theater, and there were a lot of newspapers called "Herald", though the one In NYC ceased activity in 1924 so can't be that one.
Do Tell seems to be another newspaper of Rapture, and not from the surface like the two others you first mentioned. Also yes I can confirm it is in BaS.
Pauolo (talk) 18:31, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the New York Herald folded when it was acqired and became the New York Herald Tribune. However, many people still referred to it as the "The Herald" in passing conversation.
Unownshipper (talk) 04:20, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Audio Diary  Critics  - Transcript: Of my first play, the Herald said: "A dead whale has washed up at the Shubert theater, and stinks a little more with each passing night." The Tribune called my first opera as "having the effect of canceling out all of Mozart's classics in a single caterwaul." And now, critics take me to task for my humanitarian work. If I were not there to find a home for these orphans, would these bellyachers take my place? An artist once said, "All critics should be assassinated." I just might take him up on that.
Sounds a bit like his recent 'artistic' attempts and critics judgements  - 'whale' comment sounds kinda sea related... (and Cohen had been in Rapture for many years already (late 40's?) -- maybe coming thinking he wouldnt run into similar critics as he had previously faced on the Surface).  Rapture has a 'Tribune' (why not a Herald too - a common enough newpaper name though how many could 20000 Rapturites afford to support??). Now  Why would he say Herald and Tribune in almost the same breath if they were the same paper ?  Which other 'Herald'  (big city) would be refered to as 'The' ?
Ditto why not a 'Shubert Theater'  in Rapture??   But still not really substantiated enough to add to the list (him referencing pre-Rapture happenings is pretty likely as mentioned).
No mention of  Cohen's 'humanitarian' anywhere previous to BaS (where is the "Sander Cohen's Little Sisters Orphanages" - they musta forgot that HE would change the name at the first possible moment  because of his ego. )   Hmmm, If Cohen wasnt going to be on the 'outs' with Ryan for such 'altruism' then did Ryan actually not care so much (as long as it wasnt the 'taxpayers' money)  -- beside them being the main source of ADAM, which Ryan NEEDED continued until the addiction thing was fixed.
Hmm, how many of Cohen 'Plaster-pieces' contained the critics he complains about ???
Testxyz (talk) 07:47, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

D. Francon AntiquesEdit

Located in Emporia  -- isnt that in Infinite, not Rapture ????????

Illegal Plasmid production lab (operating in drainage tunnel 06A)Edit

is this actually a Fontaine business ?

Since his audio diary can be found in the supervisors office it makes sense that he was the one in charge or had one of his men running it. 23:59, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

I thought that too, but why would Fontaine need an illegal Plasmid lab, when he could make them legally?
Unownshipper (talk) 04:20, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
Atlas was doing such operations to power up his 'army', but why so far away from his positions in BS1, and he probably had better resources than that to do it.
It is also in BS2, 7+ years after Fontaine/Atlas was dead, so very possibly the 'Lab' had nothing to do with Fontaine -- certainly at the later time.  Given the ways those Accu-Vox things were strewn about, it could have 'walked' from anywhere in Rapture by then (maybe Splicers traded them around as a form of entertainment...)  Potentially someone was tapping into the Little Sisters still operating (something to do with that Orphanage nearby...) to get their ADAM (and Sophia Lamb would have wanted to maintain a monopoly on it herself, probably murder anyone she found doing it.   It really wasnt explained how many others legit and 'illegal'  were also in the ADAM business even before his 'death'.  (how could it be illegal in Rapture if Fontaine could 'legally' sell that poison ??  counterfeiters of 'legal' brands ??)
Testxyz (talk) 07:32, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Fontaine's Machinery Co. is embossed on the metal working vices in the Hephaestus workshops.

Atlantic Transportation Company - seen on technical drawings in the offices in the Atlantic Express station. (these are the design/working drawings of the train carriages)

Mermaid's Land Aquarium ??Edit

Public Announcement from multiplayer :

Witness the origin of the most important discovery in Rapture's history: Sea Slugs, the incredible invertebrates that led to the creation of ADAM. On display now at the Mermaid's Land Aquarium.

Saturday Evening Post (newspaper) :

Mentioned by Fontaine in Point Prometheus (but exists on surface and quite indirectly at that, so doesnt really fit the lists - isnt there a Normal Rockwell style Bioshock picture somewhere ?? ... For alternate universe where instead of keeping it a secret, Rapture became world famous)

Should these businesses be added?Edit

Bioshock rapture-wide
Should the businesses seen on the signs in these image of Rapture be added? Since that photo is actually used in game itself then everything seen in it is canon Night at the Kashmir (talk) 12:57, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

I added the businesses since they're seen at the end of Burial at sea part 2 and in some of the Need to Know Theatre productions. Night at the Kashmir (talk) 22:02, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

La Poche du Temps CaféEdit

in Paris - seen in some bizarro-land vision seen by Elizabeth (or did she see it also before in some 'Tear' view too ?)

Fussy Cat?Edit

Is it really Fussy Cat Cat Food? I can't be the only one that read that wrong...

Shacob (talk) 21:27, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

It's right.
Unownshipper (talk) 01:46, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

For the truly obsessedEdit

- list of name of businesses seen in the BaS2 Paris scenes

- might as well also list all the characters seen there too.


This is Rapture businesses, not Paris businesses. Night at the Kashmir (talk) 01:17, August 3, 2014 (UTC)

Coca or Cocoa ?Edit

Rapture Grown Coca ... I suppose both could be grown in greenhouse(effcetively what any farm in Rapture has to be) at rediculous expense


Coca is correct.

It reads: "Grows his own Coca bushes under some kinda red light. I'm hearing he makes cocaine from the leaves. Or claimes he does."

Shacob (talk) 14:18, August 3, 2014 (UTC)

So this is from the novel, correct? Is "Rapture Grown Coca" a business, i.e. is this stuff being grown to be sold to users or simply used personally by the grower? If it's the former, then it's technically a business (though I doubt it's being sold under a specific moniker like "Rapture Grown Coca"), but if it's the latter, then it's not an actual business.

Unownshipper (talk) 20:24, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
Yepp its from the novel and it reads: "Fella opened a shop called Rapture Grown Coca the other day" - Augustus Sinclair.
Shacob (talk) 21:31, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
A cocaine shop huh…well okay. I guess everything was unregulated in Rapture.

Unownshipper (talk) 02:26, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Businesses seen in Concept Art Edit

I was thinking of maybe adding a section on the businesses seen in concept art, but not in the final version of the game. I was just thinking since we have one on semi-cannon businesses this might be an interesting one to list. So far I've seen a good few and here's a short list of some of the ones I can find or remember:

  • Ocean Cloud
  • Motel 42
  • Tonic Bender
  • Scallop Spirits
  • Smoking Lounge
  • Sonia Fine Modern Wardrobe

If anyone else has any other suggestions or opiions feel free to mention them. Night at the Kashmir (talk) 15:44, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, a new section for that sounds good, Here's some more:

  • Lloyd's News
  • Rapture Savings Bank
  • Sgt. Seaman's Salt Peter
  • Rapture Tone Recordings
  • Siren Song Studios
  • Athena Steam Works

Shacob (talk) 16:34, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Old Tom Whiskey  Old Tar Whiskey  (Old Hat )  why not all 3Edit

In game in places the HUD label doesnt match the actual object (and this one the item  pog is seen somewhere as different also) ?????

We have listed things from the object itself  included for MANY brands so why should only "Old Tom Whiskey"  only be in that list ?

Cleanup Edit

This page is in desperate need of a cleanup. The earlier parts of the page either link to the business page or contain photos of the business logo. 

The newer parts list only names without links or proof that the business does exist. The concept art and semi-canon business in particular have spotty examples of their existence. The ones linked under "Neon signs on the outside of buildings in BioShock" is vague and provides insufficient proof.

At the very least, each business name should be associated with an article or an image.

As a result, it is difficult for any reasonable person to find where these businesses might be located in the game/concept art as well as making it impossible for editors to try and expand and create separate articles. UpgradeTech (talk) 06:02, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

I agree that there can be work done to make this page more effective, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. There are several things about this article that I (and I'm sure other) like as is.
For example, I like how the page looks visually (the use of the area logos & the diary portraits to the right) and I like how it's organized sectionally (businesses by major individual, by district, the vasiously mentioned ones). I like how brand name products have their own section at the bottom. They aren't business per se, but it's best to keep track of them here for convenience sake and they aren't important enough to deserve an individual article.

You are perfectly right that business that link only to the photos of the business logo should be reworked. They should all link to an article when that is possible. However, the problem is that some of these businesses just don't have a page devoted to them. As for the Semi-canon businesses we would need someone with a copy of the PlayStation 3 version of BioShock's instruction book to scan the pictures as we just don't have them.
The parts without links to prove the business exists are harder as these were added casual contributors. As for the "neon signs," I can assure you that these do exist (at least the majority with the reference tag do), but they're listed outside windows all over Rapture. We have a name and not much else, not even a single location to tie them down to. Vague is all you can get.

I noticed you were working on a chart on your Talk Page for the Significant Businesses. I would be hesitant to use that here as I don't find it very attractive visually. I don't mean to insult you or your work on the Rapture Records page, but grids (when combined with images) take up a lot of unnecessary room and I don't find them particularly useful in this specific instance. I was meaning to discuss the issue with you, but now seems as good a time as ever.

I contest the idea that we need an "overall cleanup," let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. This page should serve to catalogue the business while more information about them (their history, location, etc) should be found on the particular articles devoted to them. Regardless, I'd be willing to help you improve it and I'm sure other contributors here will as well.

Unownshipper (talk) 08:03, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
First things first, an article is only as reliable as its sources. I am mainly concerned about the business names that do not have verified references.
Yes, ideally each business name should be linked to its own page. In the absence of such a page, it should link to a photo. Failing that, there should be a clear description of its location.
What greatly worries me are the single-line business names. There's no verifiability for other editors to possibly expand.
I have been trying to look through the Rapture City Archives to find the matching posters, but often times that single line is the only proof of existence.
Someone has uploaded some scans of the PS3 BioShock booklet, oddly as a video.
Here are some other scans of the back cover in varying resolutions.
And this was already uploaded on the wikia itself:
The Concept Art Businesses would be greatly aided with a link to the concept art from where it was lifted.
As for the multitudes of businesses attributed to "neon signs" it would be extremely helpful to note where in Rapture you can see them from. I can extract files from the .bsm, but it makes it easier if I know what map to look in.
What's important is to eventually link every business name with an image and then we can work on expanding into separate articles. Otherwise, without any verified sources, keeping with good wiki practices, the name will have to be challenged and removed. UpgradeTech (talk) 02:18, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, there should be more verifiied sources when there's no page or no picture, but how should it look? The neon refernence is technically correct: "Neon signs on the outside of buildings in BioShock." It may seem vague, but the only thing we know about these businesses (Cinema Réal, Demitasse, Lentz Bijoux & Bibelots, all the others) is what we see on their signs. We don't even have proof that the businesses are located in the district where we see their signs. It becomes even more vague when these neon signs are seen in multiple districts.
Regardless, to answer you question, most of these signs are seen outside large windows in Fort Frolic, Olympus Heights, and Apollo Square. I'm pretty sure you'll find several of them outside the window next to Robertson's Tobaccoria & Eve's Garden while most of the rest of the images are seen in tram tunnels the latter two locales. Another location you'll see them is during the descent into Rapture from The Lighthouse just before Jack's 'sphere enters the Bathysphere Station.
My main concern is the visual flow of this page. I don't believe that there should be a lengthy description of a business, its location, owner, etc. I'd like to suggest we leave the current "Neon Sign" reference tag and add another tag stating which level it's in.
I'd be happy to help look through the concept art for the businesses mentioned.

Unownshipper (talk) 02:00, November 18, 2014 (UTC)
UPDATE: I was mistaken about Olympus Heights, at least in the areas I recalled for that district. The neon signs are a part of the skybox, so it can be difficult at times to tell them apart. However, the signs are definitely located in the tram tunnels to Artemis Suites and Fontaine's Home for the Poor in Hestia. Once again I saw the signs where I mentioned them in Fort Frolic, but on the descent into Rapture, you're more likely to see them during the first good look at the city vista, not when you're just about to enter the Bathysphere Station like I'd said.
Regardless, a player is simply not going to be able to get a good look at these signs unless they can ghost through the windows using Console Commands.

Unownshipper (talk) 02:49, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Problems with editing this page Edit

Literally everytime I make te smallest of edits to this page the entire thing gets messed up. Even if Im just changing a link or adding/moving a business sections start to disappear, lists get mashed together and It won't go back to normal even though it looks fine when in the Source Editor mode. I've tried to put it back to normal but sections are still dissapeared for no reason.

Its not like im messing with anything important on the page so I dont understand how this keeps happening! Night at the Kashmir (talk) 11:25, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

I've restored the page. It seems that several tags were not ended correctly and some categories were broken by a return. Mainframe98 talk·blog·edits 12:20, June 21, 2015 (UTC)
Also, I've found this: Pressing CTRL + Z destroy the whole article on Community Central, which might explain why the page became messed up. Mainframe98 talk·blog·edits 14:35, June 21, 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps it's something wrong with your computer or your connection, Night at the Kashmir. Are you making changes in the Source mode or the Visual mode? Maybe it's because this page has such complex code. None of the other articles have as many references.

Unownshipper (talk) 02:56, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

Brands of Drinks - Error in List ? Edit

Brands of Drinks > Old Tar Coffee

Is this correct ? or has this been confused with Old Tar Wiskey (aka Old Tom Wiskey) ? 14:32, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

It could possibly be a mistake, but unless we sort through the History of edits, find the contributor who added the product, and ask him, it could ALSO just as easily be that this is something we missed.
Since the call was raised by UpgradeTech, there has been considerable effort put into finding and documenting specific places where less well known items and businesses are located. There's still a lot of work to be done, but every so often, while looking through the game, I'll come across a business or product that I was certain was a mistake only to find that it's real.

Unownshipper (talk) 17:57, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

Un-named Fontaine Business?Edit

Was reading through Julie Langford's Audio Diaries (Arcadia and Oxygen) and noticed that Fontaine had been going into the oxygen business. But no name is mentioned? Should this be noted someplace? sm --Solarmech (talk) 13:22, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

An interesting question, but that's a slippery slope because we have no actual name for it. And how were they involved with it? Producing, distributing, packaging? I think it's intentionally vague.
We know that there are likely many other businesses that Ryan, Lamb, Sinclair, or others must have been involved with, but without a name we're getting into speculation territory. More than that, would we just have a section under Frank Fontaine marked "Unnamed Businesses" with just "Fontaine Oxygen Business" listed by itself? No, I'd advise that we don't add it to the page. Rapture Businesses is meant for the known ones.

Unownshipper (talk) 03:32, October 27, 2015 (UTC)
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