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Siren[]

Shouldn't all that about fighting her as a boss be under the Siren page? Are we distinguishing the Siren and Lady Comstock? Because officially they aren't one and the same, thanks to alternate realities. I think this page should be entirely about her as a character in the game, and the Siren boss fights should be under the Siren page. Thegreatvortigaunt (talk) 23:34, March 30, 2013 (UTC)


And whoever wrote this page really needs to stop writing 'former and latter' to try and sound smart. Every single description that included a comparison used those. So obnoxious. You're all welcome for not having to read something out of a yachting club now.

98.179.185.136 23:03, April 23, 2013 (UTC)DJ_Giant_Squid April 23, 2013


Siren should be it's own page for the sake of spoilers alone. People who have watched the Heavy Hitters videos and whatnot will know about the Siren before ever knowing who it is. Vortigaunt is right too, the aren't exactly one and the same. Put the information about one and the other on each page, but mark it as spoilers. CidTheNinja (talk) 17:45, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Although the Siren is a twisted Lady Comstock from an alternate reality, they are still essentially the same person. She is the only Siren around, and combat with her is limited to three scripted encounters linked to Lady Comstock's story. Frank Fontaine's article also has a combat guide for him, even though it's equally spoilerific, for example. The only reason her combat guide is titled the Siren is because of the Heavy Hitter videos, which promised an entire class of enemies with her powers. --Willbachbakal (talk) 20:08, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

I KNEW IT[]

Laura Bailey voice actress of some other characters in Fallout New Vegas. Draven Mephilés of Faerûn (talk) 17:20, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Lady Comstock's Diary[]

Here's my question: why DID Slate have her diary?


Molotov.cockroach (talk) 23:43, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Slate likely raided what was left of Lady Comstock's belongings following his discharge. Since he heavily questioned every myth Comstock had created around himself (with good reason), he probably wanted to dig up some dirt on him. --Willbachbakal (talk) 20:14, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Devil's Kiss[]

All across this page and sevearl others it is stated that Devils Kiss does not damage the Siren. What is this based off of? I've fought her several times and unless she just happens to take damage out of nowhere right when my Devil's Kiss goes off it sure seems to be doing its job... 81.0.104.90 05:54, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Possibly...?[]

Is Lady Comstock an alternate version of the mysterious Mrs. DeWitt? Mr Bio Shock 15px-Physical_Tonic.png 00:19, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

What does the "A" stand, for, anyway? ZanyDragon (talk) 03:26, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

You know what I think? I think that, same way Comstock and Booker are the same person in alternate realities, the same applies to Lady Comstock and Mrs. DeWitt. Think of it like this:

  • Assuming Comstock never sired Anna in his own reality, there wouldn't be a Mrs. DeWitt in the first place (yet).
  • Thus, he would know of Anna's existence because of the Lutece Device (seeing her through a Tear).
  • The Comstock House gate automaton mistook Elizabeth for LC (Elizabeth assumes this was because of the outfit she was wearing, it having belonged to LC; whike this may be partly true, if you look at pictures of LC and then at Lizzie, you can sort of see a resemblance with each other).

LC's first name starts with A, which if you think about it, could mean LC's name MIGHT BE (A)NNA, and thus, when you think about it, could mean that Booker named Anna after his dead wife (LC in Columbia).

In short, the "variables" in question would be WHEN Booker/Comstock and LC/Mrs. DeWitt met, WHEN they married, and IF Anna/Elizabeth was born/brought to another dimension. In addition, you could say the "constant" is LC's/Mrs. DeWitt death. And the delicious question, of course, is WHEN. And HOW. 190.189.47.132 22:14, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Death[]

I thought it was Comstock who (personally) killed his wife? The Voxophones seem to suggest that, rather than it being Fink's doing.


86.153.142.118 15:03, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

This ghost stuff have some quantumy explanation??[]

( or are we so far past that with this game that its a pointless question )


Maybe its the ADAM ghosts stuff all over again - memory RNA with recycled... hmm - no Little Sisters collecting/ recycling ADAM are apparent - maybe Fink owns the sewage recycling plant (hmm squared, where does the ADAM initailly come from allegedly used by the Vigors if they are supposed to be ADAM tech based?  No sign of SeaSlugs ....   ??? Fink stole Fontaines huge stash he was ammassing for his Atlas Gambit ??  Yeah thats the ticket.


SImpler for it all to be 'just' a dream (fever dream) or just 'wave the hand' ( tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HandWave ) and say cuz-pixie-dust-based-fairytale. 


"Twistiness" - (twis-tee-nis)  - the state of being twisted.


Songbird is a giant mutant seaslug inside a protective encasement mechanism which maintains its required sea-water environment.  And yes, pigeons are benign by comparison, yet copralyphic recovery is the source of the ADAM for Columbia.  Needless to say, Fink keeps this noisome source a secret.

An alternative version of Elizabeth?[]

I always got the impression that Lady Comstock is an alternative version of Elizabeth. The first indicator of this is her first initial, A. Why would the devs tell us her first intitial when she's just going to be referred to Lady Comstock regardless? And if they wanted to give her a full title perhaps given by Elizabeth given that she's her step daughter, they would have just given her full name. I think it's because they didn't want to spoil the plot line that she is actually an alternative version of Elizabeth/Anna, and her name is in fact Annabel. This would explain why someone confused her for an Annabel at the beach, as it couldn't have been from knowing her as a Broker's baby Anna as Elizabeth was only ever known as Anna in another reality, not one the woman lives in. Also Booker only ever calls her Anna, which is probably why he didn't react to Elizabeth being called that name.


Also, it could explain why Lady Comstock was able to come back as a ghost. When Booker goes to a reality where the people have been dead in another they have bleeding noses and Booker notes that they seem to be a crossover betwenn live and dead. The same could be true the other way round, as Lady Comstock is dead in a realty there's a live version of her in the same reality, it put her into a ghost like state which Booker again states that he can't tell whether it's dead or alive. This is trigged by Elizabeth's presence, as she's the same person.


Just my thoughts.


82.42.161.70 16:57, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

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With the weirdness they have in this game - 'quantum physics makes it so number one!!!'  the whole place could be spook city with tears opening up randomly and who knows what all coming through them.   We coulda had a 1912 version of Ghost Busters  instead of that plot that would have been rejected by the most desperate Dr Who addict.  Booker did look remotely like Tom Baker....

She IS Elizabeth's Mother... kind of[]

So, is it worth mentioning that she is the same person as Booker's wife? Therefore, just like Comstock, she is in a way, Elizabeth's actual mother?

Ken confirmed this in here: http://elleine35.tumblr.com/post/111221893587/breaking-ken-levine-reveals-lady-comstocks

He says that the Columbian Anna Watson is as different from Booker's wife as Booker is to Comstock. 189.217.90.24 01:01, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

I don't understand the two posts, are they implying that Booker always marries the same woman? Like in Booker DeWitt dimension she would go on to die in childbirth but in the Comstock dimensions she would go on to be first lady of Columbia?


Unownshipper (talk) 05:29, February 17, 2015 (UTC)
"He says that the Columbian Anna Watson is as different from Booker's wife as Booker is to Comstock."
Which implies what?  Since Booker IS the same base person as Comstock, the very same relation is thus fully possible in an alternate dimensional reality.
75.36.139.57 06:22, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

Her Name[]

So thanks to "User:178.17.125.157" for alerting us to this and User:Jura000 for confirming it, we now know Lady A. Comstock's first name (Annabelle) and her maiden name (Watson).

My question is why wasn't any of this in the game? It wouldn't have been hard to have mentioned in a Voxophone or have it written down somewhere (the historic timeline, the dress plaque, the advertisement for The First Lady, etc.). Do you think they honestly forgot to put it in or was it something so insignificant that they never even bothered to come up with a name and Ken Levine just made one up so Twitter fans wouldn't hound him?


Unownshipper (talk) 05:01, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

One name: Esther Mailer.

Shacob (talk) 05:08, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

What?
Unownshipper (talk) 05:29, February 17, 2015 (UTC)
When you first see Esther she calls Elizabeth Annabelle, which means she looks like her mother, Lady Comstock/Mrs. Dewitt.
Which also means they knew it from the start.
P.S  "User:178.17.125.157" and me are the same person I just forgot to log in
 Jura000 (talk) 07:48, February 17, 2015 (UTC)
I agree with Unownshipper, Lady Comstock being Elizabeth's mother from another dimension is not what I would call a small tidbit of information or even trivia. In fact, Levine could have played better on that name and confuse more the player about whether Booker was talking about his wife or his daughter (reminds me of Beatrice at the end of A Series of Unfortunate Events, being two different persons). A good point though, we can stop calling Elizabeth's mother "Mrs. DeWitt," which sounded dumb imho. Pauolo (talk) 10:21, February 17, 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I tried to be clever...But it looks like Jura000 explained it pretty well. To be fear not knowing her name gave the game even more mystique and caused a lot of speculations, which Ken seems to enjoy. In an interview he refused to answer the "mystery" between Fitzpatrick and Songbird, the answer is known and simple, but he didn't just for that reason. (Here's the interview if anyone's interested: http://www.nerdist.com/pepisode/nerdist-podcast-ken-levine/)
Shacob (talk) 17:07, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

Jasmine Jolene[]

Does anybody else notice the similarites between Lady Comstock and Jasmine Jolene. They both "had" children who were main characters in their respective games. They were both romantically involved with the creator of their cities and both ended up getting murdered by said man 158.123.179.240 13:50, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

There are lots of similarities between characters and settings of BioShock/BioShock 2 and Infinite, it's not just limited to Jasmine Jolene and Lady Comstock. Columbia and Rapture are like two sides of the same coin, with a few different themes here and there. It goes for their creators, the protagonists and antagonists, etc... Pauolo (talk) 13:59, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

A thought about Lady Comstock, Annabelle DeWitt and the Siren[]

Let me start off by saying this isn't even a theory, put a (remote) possibility. As far as we know Annabelle died in childbirth, but what if that wan't the whole story? When the mini syphon is activated at Lady Comstock's crypt it pulled something through a Tear to merge it with the corpse of Lady Comstock and create the Siren. What if what was pulled through was Annabelle DeWitt (or part of her) and it led to her death? Elizabeth says at one point "You're not...not in this world. But maybe this is you in another...a world where you never meet him...". It's a really sad thought. sm --Solarmech (talk) 15:58, February 4, 2017 (UTC)